I’ve mentioned Grandpa’s apartment above the family garage before. He spent a lot of time up there, his fingers clacking away on his typewriter. And it was more than just a living space for him. It was a sanctuary where he got to do what he loved most, writing stories.
Seeing Wallace’s latest map compelled me to do some research on Walt over the weekend. And I discovered he had a similar sanctuary of his own – Carolwood Barn. In that barn, he worked on miniature trains and his own personal miniature railroad – the Carolwood Pacific Railroad. He also hung out with friends and came up with new ideas for projects. Many even refer to Carolwood Barn as the birthplace of Walt Disney Imagineering. Pretty awesome, right?
great photo, @JeremiahDaws!
Which is probably why many of you quickly made plans to visit that historic “Red Barn” as well as an original Disneyland “Combine Car” at the Carolwood Pacific Historical Society. The first chance to visit came this past Sunday, when it opened for a few hours. And the tracks you found there led far from Carolwood Barn.
Amelia, thanks for bringing us along on your journey! 1 more haunt to go!
So many pieces to put together! It almost feels like one of those amazingly difficult plastic models; everything is there, just waiting for us to put it all together if only we could figure out how. Hopefully the surprise awaiting us all at the last haunt will be the instructions/primer/key to get us an assembly starting point…
Glad I was able to help part of the mystery and record the telegraph for you!
My two little boys look so bored in the train picture! It must have been the wait for the steam engine! That was a great day and I have really enjoyed meeting so many like minded optimists in real life and on twitter!
I figured out some of the initials on the silverware at the club 33 the castles initials were WED that’s easy. Walter Elias Disney. The Plane was AME thats Amelia mary Earhart. The jellyfish is famous sci fi writer H.G. Wells, most famous for War of the Worlds. The Porthole is Jules Gabriel Verne. That strange mushroom shaped one is a tesla coil and the initials belong to its creator Nikola Tesla. That strange lightbulb looking thing is used by one Thomas Alva Edison. The eiffel tower stands for Alexandre Gustav Eiffel the man who made it. And finally the steering wheel stands for Samuel Langhorne Clemens otherwise known as Mark Twain. I think this was meant to be a way of honoring those who made a difference in the past like Mr. Disney himself did. I hope this information comes into play in the future and I hope even more that you will be able to join them someday .
I should have brushed my hair before that last picture was taken….oh well….no time for hair when you are on a train!
I loved visiting this haunt. My dad and I would go to train shows and museums all the time, but I had no idea this place existed! I loved the tour of the barn, then seeing one of his similar models in the Main St tain station at Disneyland. Did you know the Main Street train station has a real-time map of the trains goin to each stop? It’s really accurate.
See!
I wish I could have been there! It looks so magical! Good job everyone on figuring out the clues!
I was just reading that Walt Disney sold popcorn when hexworked ph the train.
Walt Disney when he worked on the train he sold popcorn. Seems like things are starting to slowly come together. Cannot wait to see what happens Thursday. A key thing for me is that the younger generation is learning and building on what the previous generation learned and did. Amelia what were the keys things that your grandfather pa$sed to you? Mine taught me so much and I am so very grateful. I cannot wait to see what we can learn from this and then pa$s on to the next generation. I am very grateful to be on on this train with all of you. We are the Optimists defining the future.
Nice photo, Jeremiah! That’s me ducking out on the left and my Mom leaving the barn.
For my fellow Optimists, here’s a fun little fanart I just put the finishing touches on!
LOL! I love it! Quite the talent you have…
Great job Nick!
Love it!!!
Very nice! You are so talented!
Well done, Nick. I will bet the guy on the right doesn’t like pinto beans.
Genius
Very cool!
Nick, awesome fanart. you’re very talented. thanks for sharing it with us.
Kind of a random side note here but… I just saw Walts barn and train on one of the new Mickey cartoons on the Disney channel, has anyone else caught that?
Is there a link to that?
I had it recorded on my DVR, but I’m sure that a quick search on YouTube will help you find it. The episode is called “Tokyo Go”
I don’t have a link to it because I had the show recorded, by the episode is called “Tokyo Go”
http://youtu.be/wLgSbo0YsN8
Yes! The new Tokyo one. Did you catch the black and white photo of Walt inside the barn?
Yep! I got really excited and my family thought i was going nuts hahaha
Just saw it! So cute! I love it!
Speaking of “On the right track” I received my 1964-65 New York World’s Fair Disneyland record in the mail today, and I personally wanted to thank you Amelia for sending it to me! I just heard both sides, and once you play it again, it plays the hidden tracks, hence the double grooves. I really did enjoy it! Thank you again Amelia!
That makes me so happy to hear, Randy.
Wow! You received one today! Maybe there is still hope that I might get one too! I also thought about calling Chili Joe’s to see if they would ship a can of chili! LOL
i cant help but to think that theres alot of refrences to not only the carosuel of progress but to carosuels in general. i mean if you think about it a carosuel is pretty much a rotating platform that has a center and alot of these clues are just that. think about the record and how it could be considered a carosuel or even the plate found in club 33, as it has a center being the crest and the icons on the outer spokes. i don’t know if its all just coincidence, but its pretty interesting to think about
“Now most carousels just go round and round without getting anywhere. But on this one, at every turn, we’ll be making progress. And progress is not just moving ahead. Progress is dreaming and working and building a better way of life. Progress is a commitment to people. A commitment of making today and tomorrow the best time of your life. It wasn’t always easy. At every turn in our history there was always someone saying “Turn back. Turn back.” But there is no turning back. Not for us. Not for our carousel.”
i will say it has been a fun journey not only for those of you who have the amazing opportunity to be directly involved with the clues, but for those of us following along from a distance. hopefully we will start to make a few more connections with all of this and then we will finally be able to start making sense of all of this. with that said, i guess its always important to know that theres a great big beautiful tomorow!
I’m following from a distance, too, Jeff – I’m in Ohio. But it’s still an interesting story!
to own one of these records would be amazing, maybe theres still hope for me in kentucky!!! fingers crossed
I just got my record today and I live in Louisiana so maybe yours is coming soon!
hopefully i’ll be lucky enough to recieve this amazing piece of disney memorablia. disney practically is at the center of my life! sad but true..
By the way thank you Amelia for the record I love it and can’t wait to share it with my family!!!
My pleasure, Kris. Happy to hear it!
OMG Thank you Amelia, I for my record it came in the mail today, when my husband brought it in I immediately knew what it was from everyone else’s description, right down to the stamps and RI address, can’t wait till tomorrow to play it and then it goes into my Mickey Collection.
Did everyone who just got a record get volume 1 as well? Hopefully I will get one too!
Don’t mention it, Sharon. I think Grandpa would be glad it found a good home.
Nick, I love your art. Very inspired. Btw, everyone. I have been trying to wiki our society members and I found Mark Twains “Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court interesting. A man travels BACK in time and teaches young, CHOSEN medieval folk to learn modern science to create a more fair, non-cla$$ world. (At least try). Interesting. When is Verne from? When are any of the society members from? Have they brought knowledge to 1964 from the future? It is a carousel, with no start and no end. Hmmmm…
The Eiffel Tower was originally built as the entrance arch for the World’s Fair in 1889. Just found this fact. I was wondering how the Eiffel fit into all this. But other than the world’s fair I do not see a Disney connection.
Maybe there are some connections to Eiffel in this new Mickey short like the Tokyo short and the train. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCaxXQdkfPk&feature=share&list=PLC6qIbU1olyXQe1WOKt8UJ4hErx3D7qt8
some of my random thoughts after reading your comment, Shanin, and everyone else’s: here’s a historical tidbit i discovered, Gustavo Eiffel was the architect of the Statue of Liberty in NY harbour. Also, when the city planners were developing Washington, DC, they decided to use the city of Paris, France’s layout as the example. i don’t know if this is a coincidence but looking at the old video of Walt explaining his concept and map of EPCOT, the map looks like it was to be a circular layout like Paris, France.
Interestingly, Eiffel built railroad bridges as well and built a wind tunnel as an early test mechanism for airfoils and scale aircraft designs (Amelia!)
i dont think see the connection with that short but it was very cute haha
The Westinghouse Corporation won the bid for illuminating The Chicago World’s Fair, the first all-electric fair in history. On May 1, 1893 President Grover Cleveland pushed a button and a hundred thousand incandescent lamps illuminated the fairground’s neoclassical buildings. This “City of Light” was the work of “Tesla”. So here is another World’s Fair connection. The World’s Fair seems to be a very important connection between some of the people from the club 33 clues.
“In 1932, when a carnival entertainer, one Mr. Electrico, touched the young man on the nose with an electrified sword, made his hair stand on end, and shouted, “Live forever!” Bradbury remarked, “I felt that something strange and wonderful had happened to me because of my encounter with Mr. Electrico…[he] gave me a future…I began to write, full-time. I have written every single day of my life since that day 69 years ago.” Just found this cool fact about Bradbury from wikipedia. Too bad he did not live forever. Interesting that he thought electricity was going to make him live forever?
I agree, that’s a really interesting quote! I’m a huge Bradbury fan myself, and this quote certainly explains the inspiration for his book “Something Wicked This Way Comes”. Carnival workers, electricity, and carousels were very important elements in the book.
And not to mention the whole idea of prolonging life and having control over age were major themes in the book as well…
He did argue that he would live longer based on his writing, and the fact people knew and read his work, as mentioned before discussing ‘something wicked this way comes’. He knew he may not live forever, but live on in other ways.
Amelia, thank you for the record! I am in the town next to the old World’s Fairgrounds in Flushing. I did a little research, and their museum is closed through October of this year. If we need to visit the grounds to help in our joint quest, let me know and I’ll do what I can! Everyone’s help has been great!
That’s very generous of you to offer, Amy. If anybody discovers something, we’ll let you know. Thanks!
Thank you so much for the record! I honestly have no idea what to say. Well actually I do, you really have no idea how happy I am to receive a gift like this. This has really made my day! This has totally become the inspiration for me to become an Imagineer! Thank you so much for helping me follow a dream. Like an inspiring man once said… ” If you can dream it, you can do it”!
I asked once before, but i don’t know if anyone saw it, for the people who just got a record, can you verify if you got Volume 1 of 2 or 2 of 2?
Vol 1 for me
Here’s some info on Edison Square. http://www.theneverlandfiles.com/tnf/disneyland/edisonsquare.php
It’s interesting because “Harnessing the Lighting” would have been the major attraction of Edison Square. Which was the predecessor of CoP.
For reference, the entrance to Edison Square would have been between the Plaza Inn (formerly Red Wagon Inn) and Central First Aid.
The entrance to Liberty Street would have been where the Main Street Lockers are now.
Here is some Concept Art of edison square
Also, if you missed the link to Hastin’s livestream, here it is. http://ustre.am/12rNb
thank you kalani for all the links and the research on edison square.
You’re very welcome! =)
Here’s a flickr search showing photos of the inside of Walt’s Apartment.
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=walt%27s%20apartment
Some links to more Edison Square information.
http://jimhillmedia.com/editor_in_chief1/b/jim_hill/archive/2005/04/01/571.aspx
http://travel.usatoday.com/alliance/destinations/mouseplanet/post/2012/01/A-Visit-to-Edison-Square-1959/612426/1
Posting only a couple links per post, to avoid moderation limbo.
http://progresslandblog.com/tag/edison-square/
http://land.allears.net/blogs/jackspence/2011/01/carousel_of_progress_part_one_1.html
Here’s a high rez map from 1962 showing the proposed Edison Square addition. http://www.imagineeringdisney.com/blog/2009/9/7/1962-disneyland-souvenir-map-high-res.html
Also attached is a compressed version.
Working on lining it up with the plate next.
Walt’s Apartment video walkthrough. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHuLNHoQxn4
BG Info
http://www.waltsapartment.com/waltsapartment/
http://www.justdisney.com/Features/Apartment.html
More photos
http://davelandblog.blogspot.com/2009/02/vipoff-limits-area-1-walts-apartment.html
And I still didn’t manage to avoid getting stuck in the moderation queue. =(
Last link for now. http://www.mouseplanet.com/9833/A_Visit_to_Edison_Square_1959
Great job Kalani! Enjoy Walt’s apt!
Thanks Katherine, but I’m not there today. I’m stuck at work about 15minutes down Katella from The Park! =( Just doing what I can from here.
Regarding Wallace’s new poster. Here’s a picture of the phonograph and lamp from Walt’s Apartment as of last year – “Look Beyond the Lamp”
Beyond the lamp may be a reference to somewhere out on Main Street or at the Opera House?
What is the picture/photo hanging on the wall, “beyond the lamp”? I still can’t figure out if the beyond the lamp clue is the canister on Main Street, or something else. Does anyone have a close-up of that photo? Zooming in just makes it blurry…
I’m not sure if that’s been definitively determined yet. I posted the best photo I could find of the area. I am not there, but it’s my understanding Wallace posted his map after the last group had already left Walt’s Apartment.
Yes, that’s how it happened…it’s still hard to let it go. I’m going to ask a friend that’s been in there and has photos and see what I can find.
Which photo? I was near the phonograph this morning and was staring at those pictures/areas because I was a) near the back and b) I’m short, that’s all I could see…
@Mercedes, the photo on the wall, behind the taller lamp and behind the phonograph…any thoughts on it?
It’s a photo of Walt and ??? (grandchild? or Julie Andrews? there was a series of stories at that point) riding in car he designed to still be able to get around the park without being mobbed…and grand marshal parades.
I too was standing near the phonograph during the tour. The CM stated the photo was of Walt and 2 grandchildren.
Ok, so since no cameras were allowed, I took notes of what our tour guide was saying of each of the pictures. Of what I was able to write because he was talking pretty fast, he described the picture behind the phonograph as “Walt with his granddaughter in front of City Hall in an Electric Car.” Also, the name of the phonograph was an Edison Standard Phonograph. Maybe that electric vehicle means something ?!?!?
Or City Hall means something? In front of City Hall?
I’m impressed you managed to get all that down!
This photo convinces me even more that what we were supposed to find was the canister on Main st.
I was at the tour today and when it got to the point where the tour guide was talking about this phonograph it seemed emphasized. When he showed us the canister, he paused the speech to make sure everyone was looking at it. Someone on the tour even mentioned that this is not usually part of the tour.
This photo you posted above looks exactly like Wallace’s clue which to me means, the clue is not the lamp (Walt’s lamp or the one in the photo) but the phonograph. Wallace’s art was just another way to emphasize that the phonograph from the tour was important and lead us to 20th century music on Main street where we could get a closer look at the canister and see what was written on it.
top= Edison Records and 9639; Side=Eiffel tower stamp and “Paris echoes all over the world”
found this online when searching
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q__qBs-hALs
It’s called echo all over the world. Don’t know if it relates but it is the same type of wax cylinder we saw! Not same images though
Edison presented the phonograph at the Paris Expo 1889 and it was a hit with the public. It was at this expo that the Eiffel Tower was opened.
First canister clue was found in a window on Main Street with a patent number that pertain to Edison’s music players
Link to the patent. http://www.google.com/patents?id=ozxOAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4#v=onepage&q&f=false
More info on Wax Cylinder recordings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph_cylinder
Nothing on the wax cylinder gave any patent numbers correct?? you just found what patent number would correlate with wax cylinders of the time?
According to the livestream it was faintly written on the cylinder.
The patent number actually corresponds to a patent for a disc-type record, more similar to an lp than the wax cylinders. The patent was 1920s, and the cylinders were used around the turn of the century.
This is my first post but I am all caught up. This has been such an adventure and living in West Virginia, I really appreciate everyone that has be able to make it to the parks to get clues. I really wish I was you! lol
Anyway, regarding the recent image posted by Wallace, I couldn’t help but notice a few things. I’m not sure if they’re reveals or not, but hey anything helps.
In each of the subimages, they each have an arrow. I’ve never been to DLC, so I’m not sure where they’re point to. Also, in the picture of the phonograph, the calendar behind the phonograph has a day circled; August 1st, today. Not sure what its referring to, but it seems like something, other than the bench, happens today.
That’s all I’ve caught for now, hope to have been some help. (:
Here’s a quick version with the plate over the ’62 map lined up with Edison Square. Nothing of interest except the plate lines up when it’s upright.
Thanks for posting everything Kalani I was away fom my desk in a meeting for a couple of hours so I wasn’t able to hang in there with you gys the whoel time
This is my first post but I am all caught up. This has been such an adventure and living in WV, I really appreciate everyone that has be able to make it to the parks to get clues. I really wish I was you! lol
Anyway, regarding the recent image posted by Wallace, I couldn’t help but notice a few things. I’m not sure if they’re reveals or not, but hey anything helps. In each of the subimages, they each have an arrow. I’ve never been to DLC, so I’m not sure where they’re point to. Also, in the picture of the phonograph, the calendar behind the phonograph has a day circled; August 1st, today. Not sure what its referring to, but it seems like something, other than the bench, happens today.
That’s all I’ve caught for now, hope to have been some help. (:
Trying to follow the clues on Wallace’s new artwork and has led me with fellow optimist to Astro Orbiters. People see a symbols of a circle diamond circle. What do you optimist think?
The circle diamond circle remind me of the targets at the Astro Blasters ride. The Orbiter frame of the clue on Wallace’s poster seems to be pointing to the right of the skyway where the show building for the ride is.
Is there a Rivers of America with the Liberty Belle in Disneyland or like a TTA type ride? That’s what I’m thinking the other two images are.
I overlaid the 62 map of Edison Square over Wallace’s map. The arrows line up with proposed attractions.
The arrows also all point to Walt on Main Street, just past the light, out his apartment, clue?
Funny, the map in the bottom map is from 1962, I believe and was designed by Sam McKim, a Disney cartographer who created souvenir maps. Sam McKim’s artwork of Mr. Lincoln hangs in the Opera House lobby. Probably not a real clue, but fun to note!
Did anyone check out Tarzan’s Tresshouse? I know some mentioned a phonograph possibly at the treehouse in the live stream. The bottom map names one of the features as American home Pre-electricity. Could this be the treehouse?
Thus far the clues are Circle, Diamond, Circle (from the PeopleMover) and 12 pm May 21, 1932 (from Mark Twain)… the date Amelia Earhart made the first solo trans-Atlantic flight.
The 12pm (Eastern Standard Time) is approximately the time Amelia Earhart departed Newfoundland.
Where did you get the information about 12pm? I believe it is false.
Found here that she left at 7 pm. Newfoundland time would be 5 hours ahead of us so that would make it 2 pm PST and 5 PM EST.
http://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/Amelia_Earhart_C731DBBA4CAE4.pdf
What could 12 PM refer to?
Well, technically, she started the flight on may 20. The landing in Ireland was May 21. Maybe the time is for the landing?
It’s certainly possible. I got that time based on a letter from “Doc” Kimball suggesting noon as the best time to depart. I will certainly defer to someone with more knowledge than myself on the subject. http://www.weatherwise.org/Archives/Back%20Issues/2010/May-June%202010/retrospect-full.html
Check out this date on the corner of the certificate after you ride the Mark Twain in the Wheelhouse!
Ohhhh that’s clever, I missed the part where hastins showed that in the video so i was thinking it was in a log book or something. Thanks for sharing!
Sorry for picture… in my mobile device it’s the correct position but on my computer it’s upside down…
Clue found in the wheel house of Mark Twain is a date on the certificate given for riding in wheel house. The date is May 21st 1932 which correlates to Amelia Earharts transatlantic flight!
I wonder if Amelia E. was the societies test pilot. We know she was considered lost, maybe she is not really gone but in another time.
This could be a possibility! Maybe she managed to go to another realm?
Back at work after meeting fellow Optimists at the bench and the Walt’s Apartment! The article at this link on ImagineeringDisney.com has a lot of information about Edison Square. http://www.imagineeringdisney.com/blog/2012/9/6/tomorrowland-67-part-3.html
Snuck back to work myself…so jealous of those putting things together at the Park…good luck!
Excited for what’s coming out of the trip today; once again very jealous. I’ll keep an eye out here, but mostly following the Twitter adventurers posting their findings…
Picture taken from Rockets of possible clue. Same design on lamp posts in New Orleans Square at Disneyland
Picture from ride
More records?! I would SO LOVE to get one! Especially since I am not anywhere near the parks. I even have a record player!
Circle Triangle Circle in wingdings is LTL? don’t know if that helps or not!
It definitely makes things more interesting!
Does anyone have a video from the apartment up yet?
No filming was allowed in Walt’s Apartment, unfortunately.
Do you guys maybet think all these spots have to be approached at night. Edison invented the Lightbulb. Maybe a light will reveal something different? On Wallaces newest piece theres a lightbulb hidden in the wheel.
Very interesting point. My husband told me in New Orlenas square today they noticed the circle-diamond-circle patterns on all the light posts plus all the lights were out expect one light post had its light on!
That is so intriguing! I’m at a lost with that clue!
Just doing a quick search: circles often symbolize infinity, unity and wholeness. I didn’t find rhombus (diamond) with the same type of symbolic information; it was more of a vague humanitarian…fond of children and home…calmness of mind-type speak.
in astrological symbolism the diamond (rhombus) symbolizes time and space. In Alchemy it represented the combination of Air (top triangle) and Water (bottom triangle)
That makes a bit more sense, Stephen. I think. Ha!
When I think of “THE lamp” I think of the lamp that sits on the little table in Walts Apartment in front of the window that can be seen from Mainstreet. perhaps the message “look beyond the lamp” on Wallace new poster could mean to look beyond the lamp, and out of the window??? the could be something that can be seen in viewing distance of that firehouse window?
It was a very cool meet-up.
It was awesome ti get get visit Walt’s apartment. It’s something that I’ve always wanted to do.
A high resolution version of the 1962 map with both Edison Square and Liberty Street can be found at this link:
http://www.imagineeringdisney.com/blog/2009/9/7/1962-disneyland-souvenir-map-high-res.html
Snuck back into work after the tour this AM! To think there is so much more to think about now. Great work everyone outside and in the parks!
Circle Diamond Circle reminds me of Mary Blair the artist who was one of the original imagineers. She also created a mobile/statue for the 1964 worlds fair. heres an example of her work: http://www.michaelspornanimation.com/splog/?p=2352
The Tower of the Four Winds was designed by Rolly Crump, but it definitely fits well with the Mary Blair facade at Disneyland. Speaking of which, the shapes on the peoplemover platform do look like Small World patterns. I’m pretty sure, though, that they are referring to the deign on the New Orleans Square lamp-pole.
I am so jealous of everyone who has been able to visit Walt’s haunts and the parks! But everyone has been doing a great job! I wish I was more helpful. Well, I will be in Anaheim starting Aug. 6th. . . Maybe I’ll be more helpful.
Again, good job everybody!
I believe the 12:00pm has more significance than the time she left. I cannot find the time she departed anywhere on the net. I would rather think it has to do with the plate as a guide to point true north (12:00) on a map. The reason I would placed this is due to the fact that the Wheel is utilized as a symbol before the time code. There would be no reason to place a time unless it was utilized for something.
I was thinking the Amelia Earhart reference is telling people to be at the location that the Earhart intitials & plane on the compass points too. South, Main Street, Disneyland RailRoad IIRC.
It was great meeting everyone and spending the day at Disneyland. Not sure what to make of the clues we did find … but hopefully with time, things will become more clear!
Can someone please summarize what happened today at the Bench?
Yes, please… I was so busy at work I didn’t have time to watch the live stream…
Groups were led into Great Moments with Mr.Lincoln theater where Wallace spoke about historical figures, groups were then led to Walt’s apartment above the fire house. New clues given.
New symbols throughout the park. Wallace put up new Edison Square artwork.
Agreed. It would be greatly appreciated. A summary would be great for those who were unable to watch the stream.
I was not there but from what I was able to watch. They where taken inside the great moments theater where Wallace meet and addressed the group. They then where to meet at the bench where the were given a tour of Walt’s apartment. After that a new poster was released that lead to three clues around the park: the MT certificate, wax cylinder on the window display, and the symbols on the skyway. The cylinder lead to a patent. The rest of the cules have yet to lead us somewhere.
Going to try to do my best to summarize for you guys. People who were there please add to this (photos also) if you remember anything else.
We all met at Walts Bench went inside Great Moments theatre where Wallace told us that some attractions in Disneyland came to fruition, some changed along the way (like epcot) but others were never realized at all. Began speaking of Edison Sq. Gardens and said that on the next part of our tour “the closer we look the more we will find” (someone will surely post video of this part when they get a chance)
In groups we went to Walt’s Appartment where two CMs gave the usual guided tour (told us about the lamp always being on, the decorations in the room etc.) except for some extra emphasis on the phonograph (which according to others is not usually part of tour) He showed us a canister that you attach to phonograph to play music. It had an Eiffel tower on it.
After, Wallace posted his new art. This is where certain groups split up to head to different clues.
The group that stayed on Main Street went to 20th Century music where they found a cylinder that matched the one shown to us on the tour. On the top it said “Edison Records” and “9639″ on the sides it said “Paris echoes all over the world”. Some tried riding IASW but couldn’t find anything significant. I should mention here that the group is torn on if this was actually the clue we were supposed to find for “look beyond the lamp” Some think that because it is not in direct view of Walt’s window and because they already showed us this cylinder inside the apartment, it doesn’t correlate. I think that “beyond” is intended to be taken as, look at other things in the appartment besides the obvious–to me that means the phonograph and canister and that it was placed on Main st so we could get a closer look at it.
The second group went to the Mark Twain to ride the wheelhouse. Couldn’t see anything significant while riding the wheelhouse but were given a certificate, the usual one handed out when riding wheelhouse, except for very small writing in bottom right hand corner that said “12:00 PM Saturday May 21, 1932″ with a tiny wheelhouse? symbol. A google search told us this was the date Amelia Earhart made her first transatlantic voyage. Some checked the portrait by Great Moments. Nothing significant.
The third group went to ride Astro Orbiters where you were able to see a symbol written on the people mover track. It was a circle, diamond, circle (I don’t have photo but someone should post one…)
The group then tried looking in New Orleans Sq where we thought symbols on the lightpoles looked too similar to that symbol (can someone post a photo of this too?) Only one of the lightpoles in front of 21 Royal Street was lit. Tried to do some searching. The fortune teller clues mentioned certain attractions (small world, castle) that others in the group checked out with no luck. We are still not certain if the lightpoles or the fortunes were actual clues or false leads.
We are not sure if we found everything we were supposed to find today or not but that’s sort of where we ended things.
Hope this wasn’t too confusing :/ lol
Thank you, Christina! You did a great job! You helped pulled together the somewhat disjointed comments and pictures from today. I know everyone was running all over DL and couldn’t document it all. But your summary was very helpful. Sounds like everyone there had a very interesting day. Congrats for all of your finds and clues!
pretty great recap of today !
Thanks so much! You guys are the best!
Hope you guys don’t mind, but the ones who provided some information under this comment post (Luis, Robert, Christina) were quoted on my blog. http://geekjlz.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-optimist-log.html
Christina thanks for the thorough update. One thing I did not catch while reading your post. For those who went to ride the wheelhouse on the Mark Twain, was there any link to the triangle shown on the wheel in Wallace’s Edison Square print? Am I even making sense? Let me ask another way. On the Wallace print of Edison Square there is one handle on the ships wheel that is identified by a triangle. Did anyone see anything on the actual corresponding handle of the ships wheel on the Mark Twain?
We think it might have been pointing to the bottom right corner of the certificate which is where the time stamp was. If you laid the wheel from the Edison sq. photo onto the certificate it would have been pointing at it. We searched the wheel on the Mark Twain and didn’t see anything and looked out the window at the ground where it would have been pointing, didn’t see anything. So that is what we concluded.
Wallace has a full page ad in the D23 Expo guide book! If you solve the puzzle on the page and tell him the secret word, he’ll give a surprise. Hint: Check out those graphics circling the page… pretty simple.
I saw that too, I am assuming that you tell him the password and he will give you something, perhaps the final clue?
Inside the magic posted this on Twitter. The border is a secrete message. http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQn8E24CMAE23Bd.jpg:medium
From this tweet:
Full page ad in the #D23Expo guide book for @DCartography and #TheOptimist: pic.twitter.com/3A5YtEOEvC
Password is Progress
I just checked out Inside the Magic’s Twitter feed for the day. There is a two part video link to YouTube which has Wallace’s presentation. The Twitter feed gives a timeline of events.
I decoded the message and apparently, at the expo when you see Wallace, the password is progress…
PASSWORD IS PROGRESS (at D23). That’s the secret message.
so the characters on this poster in the link is a clue?
Each image corresponds to a ride, the first letter of which will spell out the clue
PS smileys now make your clue go to moderation. What??
Each image along the border corresponds to a ride, the first letter of which will spell out the clue
Password is Progress…
Pirates
Autopia
Space Mountain
Space Mountain
World of Color
O
Radiator Springs racers
Dumbo
Its a small world
Space Mointain
Pirates
RSR
O
Great Moments with Mr. LincolnMr. Lincoln
Enchanted Tiki Room
Space Mountain
Space Mountain
O is for Orange Stinger, a now-defunct ride at DCA
Oh and the full page ad in the d23 guide provides a password to use at the expo.
I was at the park today & took this photo
This seems very convenient. Perhaps the clue is where the treat wagon is?
i really dont know we look all over this tower and didn’t see anything besides the circle square circle
Looks like that diamond is missing the flourish that the other one has. Did you take a flash photo of it?
Would that be a tulip that is missing from the diamond? Maybe something in the Netherlands section of IASW?
I would say that you are correct, we have had two other clues that used a flash so I would assume that this one would too, and if you look closely it looks like it’s surface is raised, like they just put somthing over top of it….. byt the way Ricky… unless you in CA 4:00am in the morning….jeeesh!
Hah! Yes I was up til 5am. Haven’t fully recovered from Comic-Con yet.
no i didnt really think to take a flash photo
I dont know but part of me is thinking that the final clue, with the phonograph picture and the message to “look beyond the lamp” is the photo that was hanging beyond the lamp. It would be in the same spot that the calendar in Wallace’s art work is located. I was taking a lot of notes with my notebook and trying to write down everything the tour guide was saying and he mentioned that the photo was of ‘Walt and his granddaughter in front of City Hall in an electric car.’ Interesting that its a grandfather/granddaughter connection…. Just like you Amelia and your grandfather. (Sigh) Mayebe I’m just reaching here but I’m at a loss.
I was able to find a video tour of the apartment from the media tour for Epic Mickey 2 and found the image. The wide shot is at 2:12, and the close-up is at 2:40.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHuLNHoQxn4
Thanks for sharing, Jason!
I actually think that you might be on to something… According to a timeline of electric cars on PBS, Edison believed that electric cars would be the way of the future.
“Believing that electricity will run autos in the future, Thomas Alva Edison begins his mission to create a long-lasting, powerful battery for commercial automobiles. Though his research yields some improvements to the alkaline battery, he ultimately abandons his quest a decade later.”
Here is a link to that article: http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/223/electric-car-timeline.html
Louella, are the Autopia cars electric or are they still gasoline…. i could not remember.
They are gas. I think the sponsor is even Chevron.
so no connection there. i wouldn’t think so anyway, we already had a clue there…
I think that is a good suggestion makes sense. Because all the other clues from today to be honest are confusing. Lol
I did take flash photos at the Small World Mall last night where all of the circle, diamond, circles are, but nothing showed up. Did not see anything in the Netherlands area, either. Found this interesting piece on Edison from Aug. 1, 1910, thinking Aug. 1 in the drawing did not necessarily mean yesterday’s date: http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/edhtml/nick1.html
I was thinking that about August 1, too…. That is an awesome article that you found, but I think it was published on August 1, not saying that the invention occurred on August 1. The only semi-related thing I could find for August 1 was the founding of the Atomic Energy Commission in 1946, but that seems a little too tangential. I even looked at the day in Disney history – http://thisdayindisneyhistory.homestead.com/Aug01.html – and nothing jumped out at me as relevant.
i’m sure this is a coincidence but i think it was interesting. i was reading the description of the Disney Vacation Club pavilion on the app. At the end of the description, they use the words “your ‘Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow’ awaits.”
A little delayed but here’s a video summary of the events that unfolded at Walt’s barn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkPMrP5PSac
Ricky Thanks for the vid, it was super helpful to see what you guys did. Wished we could have joined